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R-click menu: keep “Protocols & Templates” listed when the selected elements use the same protocol?

Solved1.18K views29th October 2021Admin Tasks Cube elements Protocols & Templates View Card
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Alberto De Luca [DevOps Enabler]4.58K 27th October 2021 0 Comments

Hi Dojo,
in a View Card/Elements>R-click menu, is it possible to keep the “Protocols & Templates” listed when the selected elements use the same protocol?

In v.9 I have “protocol & templates” only if I select one single element: when selecting two elemeents (even if relying on the same protocol) the Protocols & Templates section is removed.

This would help when quickly patching just a couple of elements found through a view.
I’m used to go to “Protocols & Templates”>SelectProtocol>”Assign Alarm Template” then select elements, but this is a bit of overkill for just a couple of elements that I have alredy on the screen, just looking for a way to save time – what’s the expected behaviour in DM10?

Pieter Van Compernolle [SLC] [DevOps Enabler] Answered question 27th October 2021

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Pieter Van Compernolle [SLC] [DevOps Enabler]3.24K Posted 27th October 2021 2 Comments

Hi Alberto,
Thanks for bringing this up. I agree that this would be a useful feature. In DataMiner 10.0 and 10.1 the behavior is still the same though.

The use case you are describing, is that one that happens daily, weekly or rather monthly? I would like to understand if this is indeed a ‘nice to have’ like Matthias assumes.

Pieter Van Compernolle [SLC] [DevOps Enabler] Posted new comment 2nd November 2021
Alberto De Luca commented 27th October 2021

Hi Pieter, this is something I’d use very frequently – in most of my admin sessions I start from a card view>Elements: element settings tend to be conceptually grouped by a view in most of my projects, e.g. I may have a specific Trend Template that is needed only for elements belonging to a specific delivery point, so I’d select every different encoder in a view and assign the desired trending or alarming criteria. It’s also in the view card that I can easily spot any sort of inconsistent settings where perhaps not all elements were updated to use the latest alarm or trend tremplate defined for a given project. Since this is not possible, I end up changing them one by one if they are 2 or 3… if they are more, I simply jot down the names before going to the “Protocol & Templates” section as advised by Matthias.

I do use also the other section, but there I have no possibility to easily select elements that are not consistent with each other within the same view – I need to know the names/numbers to use the filter available in the “Assign Template” pop-up window – so I tend to refer to Protocol & Templates mainly for other tasks (checks on the protocol versions in use, template groups and so on).

Pieter Van Compernolle [SLC] [DevOps Enabler] commented 2nd November 2021

Thx Alberto for sharing your use case.
I have added a feature suggestion to further check on the value of this request: https://community.dataminer.services/new-feature-suggestions/view-card-element-list-alarm-trend-template-management-on-multiple-selection/

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Matthias Declerck [SLC] [DevOps Advocate]2.75K Posted 27th October 2021 1 Comment

Hi Alberto,

For your request: this would be a nice-to-have feature.

For your use-case: you can select the ‘view available templates’, which opens the selected protocol + version in the P&T module.
From there, you can manage the templates for the elements with the ‘assign elements’ button.
Screenshot:

Matthias Declerck [SLC] [DevOps Advocate] Answered question 27th October 2021
Alberto De Luca commented 27th October 2021

Thanks Matthias,

I do this too, but I have to jot down the names for the specific elements I wanted to select in the view – the filter in the “assign elements” pop-up doesn’t give me any info on the view where the elements are added – as said this is because I tend to start most of my checks for project delivery directly from the related view.

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